A friend of mine went on a trip to Indonesia last year and even though Indonesia doesn't speak Dutch, you can still see its influence on the language as there are many loanwords that come from Dutch, like handuk, asbak, polisi and stopkontakt!
On the Dutch side Indonesian food is some of the most popular food in the Netherlands!
In Indonesia, the way the Dutch made the Nusantaran people fight each other is called 'Adu Domba', literally meaning "Sheep fight". The kingdoms back then are always embroiled in their own struggles, they failed to see the Dutch controlling them for their own interests.
This may not be relevant here, but one of the reason the Dutch didn't interfere in the religion of the Indonesians i.e Islam, is because of their alliance with the Turks who both shared antagonism towards Catholics. The phrase Liever Turks dan Paaps ("Rather a Turk than a Papist") was a Dutch slogan during the Dutch Revolt of the end of the 16th century.
as an indo, i want to add that the true reason those dutchies sequoias colonized us is because we have cool mountains, something that's non-existent in their low altitude habitat, that is the netherlands.
they're also great waterbenders so that kinda helps their quest in our country, which is broken ngl
It is astounding how the Dutch were able to maintain a colony so far away from their homeland, and so much larger than them geographically and in population. Even for a modern army against natives, that’s nothing to scoff at.
Indonesia back then was consist of independent kingdoms fighting each other for power and domination. The European, especially the Dutch, just take advantage of their rivalry by assisting one kingdom destroy their enemy then turned against them later. Repeat, and profit.
Super Informative. Mixed feelings watching this as a fellow ASEAN/Nusantara Singaporean. Plenty of suffering, and then unity from the ashes of that suffering. Well, the past is the past. We look to the future now. Lots more blessings, health and prosperity for our Indonesian sisters and brothers Looking forward to more Indonesian videos, thanks K&G!
Too often popular imagination tells us that Europe conquered the world through sheer military might when in reality colonial ventures owe their success to prudent diplomacy that makes use of pre-existing rivalries between existing nations while the same nations in turn used the Europeans as an instrument against their rivals and in many cases a key pillar of their power
Excellent video about our nation history! One small note, Sultan Agung use the title "Sultan" near the end of his rule, he mainly use the Javanese title Panembahan. He asked the Sharif of Mecca for the title of Sultan, because the ruler of Banten use that title and Panembahan Hanyakrakusuma (who claim the lordship of Java) think he's the one ruler who deserve it. Banten however, maintain the last local "Intercontinental tradefleet". Also, Mataram numerous Civil War is much more chaotic than the Game of Thrones story, in case you want to cover it.
Indonesia terdiri dari banyak seribu suku dan budaya, karena Belanda Indonesia satu menjadi negara. Bagus juga untuk menjelaskan kebaikan dan kejahatan VOC.
So thank you for creating this video King And Generals.
Fun fact, there are so many "sacred" 18th century cannons in Indonesia that people said the weapons was possessed by the spirit of the ancestors. It is so sacred that some people even refuse to touch the cannons or even look at it.
Tracing back to history, it is said that the "mystical" sacredness of such cannons, were made by the Dutch. To prevent any local rebellions who use gunpowder based weaponry.
So after the fall/subjugations of major kingdoms in Nusantara. Many local rebellions only uses farming equipment or homemade melee weapons. This is why even in our history lesson back in the schools, they told us that local kingdoms are primitive compared to the European gunnery.
The Sultan Agung offensive to Sunda Kelapa or Jakarta in the present day. Already equipped his soldiers with guns and cannons. Demak Sultanate naval offensive to the Portuguese in Malaka. Also utilized a huge Junk ship, that dwarves Portuguese ships at that time.
But still, after a chain of defeats and local rivalries. European gunneries are far exceeding the local traditional technology.
I would also like to say, I really appreciate the work you guys put into the videos, very very appealing to watch while gaining such well expressed knowledge. Thank you very much for your work
Not to forget : the hundreds of thousands of Balines who were slaughtered by the Dutch, completely devastating the once culturally important Bali kingdoms, and impoverishing them
Ah yes, after years of waiting, you guys finally covered the Dutch Colonization of Indonesia, which few westerner know about!
Thank you very much for covering our history .
As an Indonesian who knows its history, I fully agree 100% with the content of this video. The Dutch strategy to control Nusantara is through "Divide et Impera" (Latin for "divide and rule"). It happened since the VOC time.
Been a regular to the channel way before the Majapahit series so it's not the first time you guys brought about our country, but it's nice to see you guys covered it up.
Vasco Da Gama landing on the west coast of India started this whole colonization game in Asia which is exactly what Columbus wanted to do and reach India but ended up in America while Gama succeeded. As of today, India still remains the number 1 producer and exporter of spices in the world maintaining its ancient historical position.
The Dutch have been colonizing Indonesia for 350 years. He killed and tortured local people who did not submit to him, stole spices, was forcibly hired and other crimes. Grateful now that Indonesia is independent and now the Indonesian state has become more resilient from it .
Yet another excellent video about an interesting topic. Kings and Generals really does a great job scratching my itch to learn more and more about our human history.
awesome video. I'm always interested in knowing more about Nusantara; ever since I saw the islands in the world map as a teenager and had no idea of what was there.
This video would serve greatly in the classroom of Indonesian students. Growing up, I lack the detail offered by this video. For example, the explanation of V.O.C. downfall is only or even solely attributed to internal company corruption. Which set the tone to justify today's rampant corruption in Indonesia.
I hope you give Indonesia's nation building history justice in future video. Yes, the V.O.C. and Netherlands unite these various Nusantara Kingdoms under the Dutch East Indies. But even then, the notion that all "native" people in the Dutch East Indies are of one nation is due to the effort of many Indonesian scholars and powerful figures of that era. They did conferences, used mails, newspapers, and radios, all to create a sense of unity as a nation.
I put native in parenthesis because there's still debate on whether Chinese-descendants and Papuans are part of that Indonesian nation building. Personally, I think they are, and some have rediscover for example the role of Chinese-Indonesians had in several of the rebellion or war against Dutch. There was also a massacre in Batavia aimed at Chinese-Indonesians. I hope your research will do you justice to expose these facts.
Thank you for your efforts! This is very engaging and informative.
Would you also be able to launch a series on Chinese history as well, with focus on the pre-classical periods and the early imperial periods? A rendition by yourselves is sure to be something very enjoyable and educational as well.
Thank you so much on doing a video on my country! I'm a massive fan of you guys, so this is a match made in heaven for me!
Do you think you could ever do a video on The Netherlands during more medevial times? The Netherlands has a very interesting history!
At the begining, VOC hegemoni trough the island done by three person (triplet) Speelman (Governor after JP Coen), Arung Palaka (Bone King) and Jongker (an ambonese king maybe from saparua), this three people subdue many kingdom in the island with force.
I'm definitely on board for more videos on Indonesian history! It's on pace to become an economic juggernaut in the next few decades, so definitely a country we in the West need to become better acquainted with. It's just a fascinating place, anyway, a country made up of thousands of tropical islands, a Muslim state in mainly Hindu or Buddhist southeast Asia. It's very unique.
So basically Dutch created foundation for Indonesia, before Dutch, Indonesia was divided into little island tribal states had no identity called Indonesia.
At 20:31. Well, the spice craze in Europe didn’t “come and go.” The VOC’s spice monopoly collapsed because, alas, tropical plants can grow in other tropical places. So throughout the late 1600s and 1700s, crafty British and French traders smuggled out spice plants from these VOC-owned islands. Suddenly nutmeg was being grown in British and French Caribbean colonies, along with pepper, cloves and cinnamon. Even Indian Ocean islands like Mauritius and Sri Lanka became home to large spice plantations owned by the British and French. These new sources of spices produced so many spices that by 1750 the price of spices sold in Europe had collapsed. And with the collapse of spice prices came the bankruptcy of the VOC by 1799.
My oldest known paternal ancestor was a surgeon in the last VOC decade and later a military physician on Ternate (the Molukkas). The fort he was in there got besieged by Sultan Nuku of Tidore in 1801 at which time Nuku was allied with the British. The fort surrendered to the British after a couple of junior officers mutinied (on account of an unmanagble amount of sick and wounded defenders) and imprisoned the Dutch governor.
What Nuku seemed to have done was a bit of a "ditto" strategy to what the VOC and the BEIC had been doing, allying with rival powers to expand their empire. In his case, sultan Nuku allied with Britain against the Dutch.
The Dutch port of Texel? Texel is an island. There was a location in the sea to the southeast of it where ships would gather prior to leaving for the East. That was called the Reede van Texel.
Interesting to note that the video is released within the vicinity of Indonesia's Independence Day on 17 August. Would like to see how you may cover the history of the rest of the Nusantara - notably 2 of the nations where this region covers also observe their independence day in the month of August (Singapore on 9 August; Malaysia on 31 August). Also, a belated Happy Independence Day to Sarawak (22 July), and the history of a White Rajah in that region is probably more content for the team.
Thanks for this. The VOC is an excellent case study in the behaviour of corporations when completely free of regulation. The span of time involved boggles the mind.
Dutchmen have a unique ability where their power level and aggression skyrockets in the presence of spices, becoming more beast than man. Indonesia never had a chance I’m afraid
As an Indonesian, I curse the Dutch colonialism, but I must admit that without Dutch, we would be like The Balkans of South East Asia
There is no way you can unite 300+ ethnic groups, 770+ languages & 180+ religious beliefs except common struggle against foreign colonialism
In fact, the fact that the Dutch colonized the whole of Indonesia for 300 years seems to be still questionable, because it is actually much more accurate to say that around 250 years more than that they were still trying to control and Colonize this country, It seems that the Dutch only colonized this country for around 145 years (fromVoc's bankrupt) and even then not all of Indonesia was successfully controlled during those hundreds of years, such as the Deli Sultanate, Riau, Buton, Ternate, Tidore, Sumbawa, Kutai, and orthers It was not controlled by the Dutch (source from Zelfbesturen Netherlands-Indie at 1930) Even the Kingdom of Aceh and the Batak kingdom were only defeated in 1907 It took about 30 years for the Dutch to conquer the kingdom.
A lesser known fact is that in 1592 Cornelis Corneliszoon combined a crankshaft with a windmill, creating the sawmill.
His invention created a small technologic revolution that freed up a lot of labour.
The VOC was founded in 1602.
Where the hell did you get that map. And how did you get Romania to cede half of its territory. Including the capital to Bulgaria? Your production value is becoming unintentionally funny at this point
Amazing information as usual, i would advise to spend more time on checking for errors, as in the beginning of the videoyou clearly meant to write "size/area" but wrote "large", as if that single part was badly translated by AI ; P
Helle KingsandGenerals, it seems that in the first couple of seconds of the video, the capital of the Netherlands is misplaced. The dot that locates Amsterdam is where Rotterdam would be. Amsterdam is located higher in the country, just underneath that 'inward lake'.
Im Indonesian, my grandma said not all Dutch did bad things in Indonesia. Some of them are great and fair people.
In my city there is a lot Dutch buildings and palm oil industry made by Dutch. My grand also saved by Dutch doctor when she almost die attacked by a warthog.
And also Dutch do not force their believe (Christianity) to natives. In my city the majority are Christian but its not the Dutch who spread it but Germans missionaries who came peacefully.
My country Indonesia, formerly known as Dutch East Indies/Dutch Indonesia, was a Dutch colony for over three centuries. The country experienced revolution (by natives) and suppression (by Dutch) numerous times.. [For honest truths, pls read the insightful, multi-pages comment by 'Lonely Alaskan' at, "Complete History Of Indigenous America Before Colonialism/Chronicle", on YouTube (which by the way, got pushed down below 150 other comments lately).
Thank you for another interesting video. Beyond the Majapahit, I know virtually nothing about the history of the Indonesian archipelago. I look forward to future videos on the region!
God be with you out there, everybody. ️ :)
Trading Manhattan was easily such a huge move
The English lost it in an expensive war anyway, when they were already broke
The Dutch swindled the hell out of the Crown in that single deal
The Dutch were already more wealthy than the Portuguese and Spanish in the 16th century, before they went on to colonize. Most of the spices the Portuguese took from Asia to Europe ended up in the port of Antwerp.
The Dutch were forced to colonize themselves though when the Portuguese were forced by the Spanish to end trade with the Dutch, due to the Eighty Years War
Johan van Oldebarneveld, state pensionary, forced the separate trade companies to form one big one. The competition between the separate companies were lowering their potential profits, and thus lowered the taxes collected , that were used to fight the Spanish.
Thank you for covering some of our history again. I think there are a lot of interesting themes and periods in time where the Dutch played a role of significance. Whether in hindsight we are proud of it or not, it is part of the world history. Uncovered topics which border on what i mean include: introducing european trade with Japan, help with the independance of the U.S.A., naval/ agricultural /water management /sientific revolutions, some periods in time where our faith could have turned out very differently (karolingean empire, sudden death of all the male heirs of the Bourgondian line, creation of a greater buffer State between France and Prussia after the napoleonic wars etc. Keep up the great video’s I think a very good way for people to get acquainted with world history. 🫶
I'm sure that some pedant has already noted that December 31, 1780 was actually the last year of the 18th century. By the accepted Western calendar at the time, anyway.
my grandma when still alive told me that, when the Dutch colonialized, it did not feel like colonialized. everything is working normally. She’s working as a teacher at the Colomandu factory. colonialized felt strong when the Japanese came.
Ive wanted to stuxy indonesia history a bit more cause ive been following a company called Hololive but i never got around to it thanks for covering this
Could you also do a video about the Dutch atrocities in Indonesia, their slavery, torture of coolies etc? I read the book by Reggie Baay, and these people were extreme, cutting of limbs etc. Its seldom talked about, it cost millions of lives
nusantara means: islands in between two continents which isn't applicable to territories that isn't island, malay peninsula for instance.
nusa means island/islands, antara means in between.
A gov-general (J.P. Coen) was more like a VOC CEO, who would be put in charge by the board to do their bidding. The "Gentlemen 17" were actually in charge which is like a board of directors. Which is usually how it works in corporations.
The dutch didnt proselytize because it wasnt their goal. Remember that half of the time indonesia was colonized by VOC, a trade company. The dutch actually hampers some christianization progress.. But christianity still prevails in Indonesia as in modern indonesia as the fastest growing religion in Indonesia (by population percentage) according to our ministry of religious affair data.
Fun fact: did you know that the Dutch hired a couple hundred Samurai mercenaries to enforce their rule in South East Asia during the 16th-early 18th century.
0:06 Vienna and Budapest is Slavic once again, hell yeah! Let just rename them Vienna to Beč/Becz. Budapest would be more problematic to rename, but maybe Pieczara Budziwoja (not sure how to translate Pieczara to Slovak)? xD
22:03 Klungkung Kingdom one of the small kingdoms in the Bali Island,but they won to the Dutch East Indies before in Kusamba War or Third Balinese War, renowned for its leading person in war, Dewa Agung Istri Kanya nickname Iron Lady
21:20 Just a minor correction on the map, after The Anglo-Dutch Treaty of 1824 the Johor-Riau Sultanate is divided into Johor Sultanate under the British rules, and the Riau-Lingga Sultanate under the Dutch rules, thus resulting in the Riau islands fell into Dutch rules (the map shown in the video it's on British rules which is incorrect).
The Dutch succeeded in conquering the Nusantara with the politics of Devide et Impera, dividing and then conquering. In 1891, Dr. Snouck Hurgronje, an Orientalist, came to the Aceh Sultanate to find out the weaknesses of the Acehnese people.
The Indonesian independence movement began in 1912, when HOS Tjokroaminoto founded Sarekat Islam. There were 3 students group who formed the Islamist (Kartosuwiryo), Nationalist (Soekarno and Alimin), and Communist (Semaun and Musso). These three groups fought for Indonesian independence. And they also control modern Indonesian politics.
I understand why Dutch was so bother to keep Indonesia.
Even in modern days spices are very profitable (it also smells good), my family own spices farm in North Sulawesi, it was pass down from my Spanish great grandparents. And recently my youngest brother take care of it and start expanding it.
Colonization is what makes Indonesia but there's still a chance uniting this archipelago if you remember Majapahit ruled over much of this archipelago though the area under majapahit is still debatable.
I consider Dutch before colonization still bigger than each sultanate since they have sea route from dutch to America,they have tiny possesion in Japan too,count the sea too
It would guess that it helped the Dutch that they never forced their language and culture on the local population. It leaves the population with something that is absolutely not, but feels a bit like freedom. There is a difference between following 'the rules' and following 'their rules'.
For anyone interested in dutch colonial rule in 19th century indonesia, Multatuli's "max havelaar" is a very good read. It is a first-hand satirical account that's critical of colonial policy but doesn't oppose it. It's author is considered to be one of the most important dutch writers of all time.
As a demographic expert, the real population of Indonesia is now more than 350 to 400 million and is 100% surely higher than the population of the United States... The number of phone subscribers in Indonesia in 2017 reached 435 million subscribers while In the United States it is 373 million for the year 2023, and the number of births in Indonesia It amounts to 6 to 7 million annually, compared to 3.5 million annually in the United States... Indonesia is surely the third most populous country with a population of 350 to 400 million and has all the qualifications to become a great empire.
The Dutch faced fierce resistance from the Sultanate of Aceh, aswell as muslim leaders in other regions such as Sultan Diponegoro and Tuanko Imam Bonjol. Thousands of Dutch soldiers lost in these wars
Once upon time it was Majapahit Empire, before then divided into many little kingdoms. This more valid story based on artefacts and charters scattered all over corners in Nusantara.
I think the Dutch did not regret trading Manhattan at all. You have to consider the value of Manhattan in colonial times versus the value of the Spice Islands. Think about it from a British perspective. The British LOVED Nutmeg and actually would trade Nutmeg in the colonies for Rifles… yes a seed was worth something that could garner you meat for years. That being said, it’s shocking the British gave up the Spice Islands for Manhattan. The riskier decision was certainly on the British Empires part. I see the Dutch as opportunistic but not particularly colonial. They seem to aim for short term gains where the reward is high with the hopes of its financial impact fueling future endeavors as they arise. Preparedness in financial endeavors is key and the Dutch were very focused on building wealth rather than stretching it thin. Speaking of stretching an empire thin, it’s not exactly like the British were able to maintain the land they gained from the Dutch. I feel as if the concept of maintaining a large piece of land from a far is flawed in its mere infidelity. Especially in those colonial days when traveling wasn’t exactly expedient. The British, in my humble opinion, are the best example of how not to colonize land. The Dutch are the best example of how to do it right. Focus on mutual relationships with natives, avoid wars and profit.
Calm down with the bias. We all know colonizing is bad, but saying things like “they weren’t technologically at a disadvantage” and then in the next sentence say they were copying europeans tech, hiring europeans and reverse engineering them. which is it now? it just unnecessarily reduced the quality of the episode for the sale of social justice or whatever this is supposed to do.
Also most locals were not slaves only those who were prisoners of wars and those who accepted chrisianity were free and were part of society. Africans were shipped to indonessia to work or serve, but those africans didnt have contact with the locals
So these areas had no slavery, no forced labor, no oppression before the Dutch. Strange since everywhere else these things were common everywhere else where large numbers of competing and frequently warring states existed.
If the dutch never come to nusantara indonesia will be never be a nation as is today and will be a small tiny micro nation like in afrika and indonesia will be never united as one
tidak akan ada negara indonesia jika tidak ada penjajahan belanda.tanpa kekuasaan belanda d indonesia mungkin saat ini indonesia terdiri dari puluhan atau bahkan ratusan negara2 kecil yg berdiri sendiri, terpisah2 berdasarkan etnis dan pulau..penjajahan belanda berhasil menumbuhkan rasa nasionalisme dalam diri rakyat indonesia berdasarkan persamaan nasib dan musuh yang sama yakni kolonial belanda...saat ini negara indonesia wilayah teritorialnya murni eks wilayah hindia belanda ( wilayah jajahan belanda )..
It's not that great that out of the ruble of war thorn the Netherlands aka East India the Republic of Indonesia arose. Because after this event their Governement continued ethnic cleansing in other parts of that new Indonesia especially against the local tribes on Papua New Guinea!
It was the Engish wars that made the Dutch lose their influence around the world. Simply because most merchant ships where converted into fast and light battle ships. The remainder of the merchant fleet was due to lack of money slowly rotting away. The VOC dissolves around 1795 due to a bad fleet, lack of money, major corruption and the down of a new war with France. When the English - Dutch wars ended the French occupied the Netherlands. The Dutch sought help from the English. Together with the English and Russians, now called The Allies, fought a battle for liberation in 1799 against the Batavian (Bataafse) Republc which was actually a French made state. The Allies were lead by Dutch stadholder Willem V which was exiled in England. This expedition to North Holland was not a succes. After some battles at Den Helder, Camperduyn, Crabbendam, Bergen, Alkmaar, Castricum both parties came to an agreement. The Allies moved out. The French occupied the Low Countries until 1814. It then became the Kingdom of The Netherlands as we know it today. In 1830 due to internal struggle the Southern parts of the Netherlands declared indepandence. This is now known for as the Kindom of Belgium.
I'm Indonesian and I'm still don't agree with the name "INDONESIA". First of all, it was a given name by a German, not original. Second "Indonesia" is not even close to Indus valey or even polynasian countries. NUSANTARA is better or even SWARNADVIPA better than Indonesia
Once decolonisation set in, there were many genocides to follow. Some by the Dutch, but many more by the Javan government trying to centralise and rule the islands. I wouldn't say Indonesia is entirely free as of today, but more free than under Dutch rule.
We Indonesian knew Dutch are a bad colonizer when they trade Run Island with Manhattan. What interesting due to the event of Java War in 1825-1830 led by Prince of Mataram, Dipanegara, Belgium able to become sovereign because Dutch spent most of their resources against Dipanegara guerilla war tactics.
Hence why Dipanegara struggle against Dutch considered as inspiration for many nationalist like Cokroaminoto, Sukarno, and Hatta,
I'm Dutch. This was hard to watch, but sometimes it's important to hear a story where you're not the good guy. I'm ashamed of what these ancestors of me and my countrymen did. There's no repairing the damage. All we can do now is acknowledge. Well done.
As a Dutch citizen, though only born after 1964, so long after Indonesias well deserved independence, I apologize for what my countrymen did. As remarked in the documentary, it did start out as a trading thing. And had it not, it could have been the Portuguese, Spanish or English. That does not make us less guilty for getting greedy and wanting to control though. But all that is left for me is to say sorry.
23:06 I feel this describes sukarno much too positive, as he in his relatively short reign killed as many or even more then the dutch did in all their colonisation of Indonesia (although to be fair I'm mainly going off wikipedia and dutch historical channels)
conclusion
The statement that the Dutch colonized Indonesia for 300 years is not entirely accurate. There are several things that need to be clarified:
1. VOC and the Dutch Government:
Colonization began with the Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (VOC), a Dutch trading company, which began operating in the archipelago in the early 17th century. The VOC established power in Batavia (now Jakarta) since 1619.
The VOC went bankrupt in 1799, and its territory was taken over by the Dutch Government. So, since 1800, these areas were controlled directly by the Dutch state.
2. Areas Controlled:
Not all of the archipelago was controlled by the Dutch for 300 years. Initially, the Dutch only controlled a few strategic areas such as Batavia, Maluku and other important beaches.
Most of the Indonesian archipelago was only gradually controlled by the Dutch in the 19th century, especially after the Diponegoro War (1825-1830) and massive colonial expansion at the end of the 19th century.
3. Duration of Power:
If calculated from 1619 (founding of Batavia by the VOC) to 1942 (Japanese occupation), the duration is around 323 years. However, that does not mean the entire archipelago was under Dutch rule during that period.
Some regions, such as Aceh, were not fully subjugated until the late 19th century, while other regions retained local autonomy.
4. Japanese Occupation:
The Dutch lost control of Indonesia for three years (1942-1945) due to the Japanese occupation in World War II.
Thus, the claim of “300 years of colonialism” is a historical simplification that ignores regional variations, periods of uneven power, and changing political and economic influences.
thanks.
Dia datang dengan dalih sebagai pedagang, dan ingin membantu pertanian warga. Setelah dipersilahkan tinggal, mereka mulai membangun barak militer dan lainnya. Setelah itu datanglah para tentara dari belanda membawa persenjataan dan mulai memaksa warga dengan penyiksaan, pembunuhan dan perampasan. Lalu mereka meneruskannya diseluruh nusantara. Saat itu indonesia bukan suatu negara melainkan wilayah yang terdiri dari banyak kerajaan namun dalam satu kawasan yang bernama nusantara.
I think you missed the events of 1825-1830. It was the Java War or De Java Oorlog. The war led by Pangeran Diponegoro against the Dutch forces under General Hendrik Merkus de Koc. The war brought huge losses to both sides. Economically, the Netherlands had to bear considerable losses of up to 25 million gulden or 2.2 billion US dollars today. And made a huge impact politically for the Dutch East Indies in its colonies.
Maybe you can make a video about the Java War in the future.
Because Dutch colonization brought Indonesia's nation together, something Indonesia had never been able to do before, Indonesia should be thankful to them. The Dutch colonial territory stretches from Merauke, Papua, to the island of Weh in the outer east. Later, Indonesia made a claim to the former Dutch colony. The Dutch planted and Indonesia reaped the results.
FREE PAPUA
What do you call:
1) Trans migration program: Deporting Papuans and importing islanders from Java to replace the original population. Before the Indonesian invasion, Papua was 99% inhabited by Papuans, now it's 60%.
What is taking away people from the land and giving that land to people you prefer? Right colonization.
2) The vast amount of resources extracted are not reinvested in Papua.
What do you call this. Exploitation. Typical for colonization.
3) Denying basic human rights, denying ngo's to operate in the area, denying journalists to operate in the area and denying human rights organisations to operate in the area?
Preventing other people to witness the genocide and colonization.
4) Things happening in Papua to this day:
Violent military campaigns and extrajudicial killings have claimed the lives of thousands of West Papuans. Thousands more have been subjected to torture, disappearance, arbitrary detention, rape, or other forms of serious mental and bodily harm
5) Did the Papuans ever vote or got a chance to vote to become part of Indonesia. NO.
So what do you call doing all of the above things, invading a country and not letting the people to decide their faith. Right colonization. The right of self determination is a basic human right under the UN charter, which Indonesia signed...
6) Regardless, Papua has the highest poverty rate in Indonesia. It is nearly three times the national average. It also has the highest infant, child, and maternal mortality rates in Indonesia, as well as the worst health indicators and the lowest literacy rates.
7) In April 2021 between April and November 2021, Indonesian forces carried out systematic extrajudicial killings and torture. It forcibly displaced at least 5,000 West Papuans. The UN has reported that since 2018 the number of internally displaced Papuans has grown to 60,000 to 100,000 people.
The Indonesian government severely restricts journalists’ and human rights workers’ access to West Papua. In 2020, Indonesia passed a law to restrict internet services and to authorize arrests of journalists for publishing “prohibited content.” Indonesia controls the narrative of conflict in West Papua. It portrays separatists as criminal terrorists to justify its military’s genocidal campaign. The UN has reported that Indonesian authorities obstruct the delivery of humanitarian aid to displaced Papuans.
Indonesia’s abuse of human rights and its use of dehumanizing racist hate speech against West Papuans represent
Stage 3: Discrimination, and
Stage 4: Dehumanization. The Indonesian Army’s massacres, torture, sexual assault, forced displacement, and obstruction of humanitarian aid amounts to
Stage 9: Extermination. Indonesia’s denial of access to West Papua to journalists and human rights groups constitutes
Stage 10: Denial.
Genocide Watch Recommends:
· A UN Human Rights Council Independent Investigative Team should be allowed access to West Papua to investigate genocidal massacres, extrajudicial killings, torture, and other human rights abuses.
· The investigation should include the complicity of foreign corporations in these abuses.
· Indonesia should repeal its laws that authorize internet blackouts and that ban “prohibited content.”
· Indonesia should allow unrestricted access for journalists, human rights, and humanitarian aid workers.
· Indonesia should pass and enforce laws placing environmental restrictions on resource extraction.
· Indonesia should pass protection of property laws to prevent further dispossession of West Papuan land.
It should be noted that the memory of European colonialism cannot be so easily ignored. While not every issue in the developing/third world can be laid at the feet of Europe it is still impossible to ignore that European rule was often a negative experience for these nations and peoples. The reaction against Western rule is one of the reasons Islamic fundamentalism is a problem today.
Question: How did Netherlands maintain the colonial holdings in Indonesia without South Africa?
The thing is that the Cape of Good Hope have been functioning as a strategic location for the Netherlands' colonial holdings in the Nusantara Achipelago until the Napoleonic Wars. So why the Dutch given up on the Cape of Good Hope so easily?
Please K&G, i'm suggest you to making a documentary about Indonesian Revolution, from 17th August 1945, the famous Battle of Surabaya and Ambarawa, until "Round Table Conference" in 1949
I hope you guys will fulfill my request, thank you
We kinda owe the dutch & Japan cuz ironically the glue that managed to unite the various independent kingdoms & tribes together is our collective hatred towards colonialism and imperialism
Shame on Holand behaviour. In Macau they were defeated agaist a small group of comun portuguese(10vs1). Compare them to the portuguese, who were the first europeans in asian seas and fought bravely the otomans, mamelucs and so many others with such small numbers just for comerce.
Holand stold from portuguese. Asia is so big, why did they rob those brave worriors?
We were the first nation to break away from the Spanish Empire ( the biggest back then). Centuries before Bolivar, yes we did things not acceptable in modern eyes. But hey? The irony is that during our independence struggle we build our own empire.
Here in school in the Netherlands, the V.O.C isn't really shamed for their actions like the W.I.C. In fact, most are national heroes like Jan Pieterszoon Coen and have statues. It just shows perspectives i guess
Great video. I miss however the story of Diponegoro's rebellion, but I think that is worth another video. The same can be said about the Aceh War, the infamous cultivation system (cultuurstelsel), the Bali Expedition and of course the Indonesian National Revolution and the so called 'politionele acties' (in reality military agression) of the Dutch.
1600:
Netherlands: I want spices!
2024:
Indonesia: I want Footballers with Indonesian decent, 100% Dutch is ok but atleast he's grandparents born in Dutch East Indies!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Even though this video is only about Indonesia, Malaysia (The peninsular) was also affected by the Dutch presence. However, the Malaysia govt never teach anything like this in the public schools because it would make them look like losers to the European colonisers (which they were, lmfao).
Perhaps it is worth noting that cloves were more expensive than diamonds at the time of these expeditions. To return with a boatload full of cloves meant unimaginable wealth at the time. (Source: Diaries of Samuel Pepys, quoted by Simon Simon Shcma in The Embarrassment of Riches, a book about the formation of the Dutch state in it golden age (1575-1672).)
Dutch had colonized the then Indonesia by “devide et impera” by making the then existing kingdoms fighting each other and making their people poor. Dutch was very ruthless country in the world with its political goal of gold, gospel n glory
The primary objective of Dutch colonization was to benefit the colonizers at the expense of the local populations. The systems and policies implemented were designed to extract maximum economic value with minimal investment in the welfare of the indigenous people. This led to long-term negative impacts on economic development, social cohesion, and political stability in the colonized regions, leaving little benefit for the local populations.
Indonesia's journey from independence to its current stage in 2024 has been marked by significant political, economic, and social transformations. The country has made substantial progress in developing its economy, infrastructure, and human capital, while also facing and addressing various challenges. The legacy of Dutch colonization has been largely overcome, with Indonesia emerging as a resilient and dynamic nation.
I love your vids, but one small thing, Texel is not a port, its an Island, part of the Dutch Wadden Islands. It is true thay the Island was used as a starting point for sea travel, but they where organized and supplied by harbors like Hoorn, Enkhuizen and Amsterdam.
Partly a reason for the Dutch managing to control the vast Indonesian archipelago, is because they didn't care about converting people to Christianity like the Catholic Spanish and Portuguese.
(Also the reason why the Dutch were allowed to trade with/in Japan for a long time; "Don't wanna convert? Fine, let's trade").
When the Dutch protestants fought the Catholic Spaniards on their soil, there was an alliance with the Ottomans.
Folks would say, they'd 'rather be Turk than Catholic'.
That's why, on some old Dutch protestant churches you'll also see the Muslim crescent moon symbol.
We Indonesians will not forget history. dark times. this is the beginning of our union. love our homeland more. but the Indonesian people will still be kind to those who once colonized us. the bad ones just forget it. and what makes it good is to keep suffering from pain, so let's do something good. because of love for our country. We really hate our country being insulted
We still have neighbourhoods where people from indonesia live rent free becouse of certain agreements made at this time!! You can only apply for these houses when your desendant from one of the indonesian islands (netherlands)
My grandmother and grandfather were freedom fighters, they were both Indonesian soldiers, my grandfather died after he was injured in the Bandung lautan api tragedy. He succeeded in blowing up the largest Dutch logistics and weapons warehouse in West Java. He also succeeded in causing chaos to the largest Dutch radio station in the South Malabar area of West Java and finally the Dutch left the city of Bandung. My grandmother always told me how much they suffered and how sad they were when they were colonized. the house was destroyed, his brothers were shot dead by the Dutch.
Indonesia was colonized for more than 3 centuries. In that time, there are many leaders and kings trying to kick away the colonists from their homeland. There are female heroes who are brave, tough, persistent, and great in fighting for the independence of the Indonesian nation.
"we cannot carry on trade without war, nor war without trade" and “To see to it that Banda belongs to us it is necessary to subjugate Banda once and for all and then populate it with other peoples”
- Jan Pieterszoon Coen
Sounds so familiar even today.
20:08 An utterly insignificant and totally unimportant correction: "On December 31st, 1799, the final day of the 18th century . . ." Actually, the final day of the 18th century was December 31st, 1800.
For the algorithm!
"Un"popular fact: the Anyer-Panarukan inter-provice road in Jawa was constructed during the French occupation of Holland.
So yup, the Nusantara was technically "controlled" by the French once
Technical the Dutch won the war for Indonesian independents, they bead the Indonesian rebellion and they singed a surrender they are documents of it , but under pressor of UN they Dutch gave independents to Indonesia a copper weeks after the war ended.
If it weren't because of the majapahit and the dutch, we wouldn't be a nation and would be as diverse as europe. But now I'm thinking, can it happen for the whole world? A single struggle unites the whole world? Made by blood may it be, but the stability of a united world is one to be sought for.
Till today, we have a saying in Indonesia:
"Belanda minta tanah"
"The Dutch asking for land"
Which is used to describe an extremely greedy person who can never be satisfied although you kept giving them more
some things that never told in our indonesian school even on this video was not all island/tribe wants to join the newly made indonesian country. some where forced to join like Timor Leste and Irian Jaya/papua. ironically the country that just free themselves from Netherland cololialism were the new colonizer in both of those island. with the help of Australia and USA history repeated itself, Timor Leste and Papua were exploited with their gold, minerals, oils, and gas but 90% of their population have no acces to health care, clean water, or even education.
The Dutch also got Surinam which made a lot of money from the New York deal. They would surely have lost it in the American Independence war if they had not traded it.
Had European power never disturbed the region affairs Java would be the biggest country in the region covering 90% of Sumatera land, all part of Kalimantan/Borneo, Bali, Singapore, Johor, Java and Lombok because it was Mataram mission to conquer these lands but the Dutch disturbs the plans. Their mission to be the biggest and most civilized in all Javanese history even comparing themselves with Majapahit as noted in their Manuscript that is called Babad Tanah Yawi (History the land of Java) and the country would be named after Yawanegara literally means the Javanese country it's a tradition in Javanese society to name their country as Yawa/Bhumi Yawa/Yawanegara/Yawapura/Yawi
Basically Sumatra is Westeros. Targaryen is an Acehnese. Stark is Batak. The Lannisters are Jambi. Tyrell is Lampung. Martell is a Riau Malay. Arryn is Padang. Greyjoy is Nias
"Question two, steal the spice trade(?). That's not a question, but the Dutch did it anyway."
As always, many thanks for another feature of our history.
You seriously need to do some more research on the Dutch Republic and the 80 Years War... not that difficult to find out Texel (pronounced Tessel) is an island, in the lee of which joint fleets from the Northern provinces would gather and take on water before journeys. Also, protestantism wasn't the only reason for the Revolt. The (northern) Dutch pretty much controlled the Baltic grain trade, and were forbidden from trading with Portugal by the Spanish...
It's surprising you made no mention of the big joke when the Anglo-dutch agreement of exchange for Pulau Run and New York/Amsterdam took place the dutch thought they exchanged manhattan which had limited worth over an island which they thought was swimming in nutmeg but they had no idea that during the war an english captain had landed and raided on Pulau Run and burned all the nutmeg trees and left and the Dutch had no idea. So when the dutch after the Treaty was signed went to see their new island they found it barren.
As a European country that fought a bloody war for decades toward independence, I always wonder, what is their public opinion back then or even later in a more modern time after their country decided to follow the path of colonization?
Between 1950 and 1963, approximately 350,000 people migrated from the former Dutch East Indies and Dutch New Guinea to the Netherlands. About 50,000 left for the US and Canada. In the US the Indonesian diaspora is called Amerindos.
The Netherlands currently has a large Indonesian diaspora of between 1.5 and 2 million. These are various ethnic communities that have retained their culture and language, such as the Indos (mixed with the European race), Moluccans, Papuans, Manadonese, Balinese, Chindos (Chinese), Javanese-Surinamese, and others.
Compared to the other large non-Western diasporas in the Netherlands (Turks 500,000, Moroccans 450,000, and Surinamese 350,000), the Indonesian diaspora is currently well integrated and causes little to no problems.
You're WRONG, this is misleading. The Majapahit Kingdom is the predecessor to Dutch East Indies, with evidence from the the negarakertagama script, written by Empu Prapanca, from the official court in the 1360s which states that Majapahit area included the now Indonesia, the whole Malaysian peninsula, Philippines (Manila and Sulu Islands), and small southern part of Thailand with capital city in Trowulan, East Java, Indonesia.
The flag of Majapahit Kingdom is still used as war flag of Indonesian Navy.
In some region dutch ruling only More than three decade like aceh and some area dutch never conquer like buton sultanate and indigenous dayak area in borneo, or kubu area in jambi... Sumatra likes 150 years, ambon 300 years, javanese 200-300 years etc
And if you learn more, dutch use
conflict between the sultanate of nusantara to reach their goals or money oriented local inlander... Dutch knew that through conventional war it almost impossible to crushed some sultanate.... At that time most of sultan doesnt have good geopolitical awareness....
I wonder why Keumalahayati the great Indonesian first admiral woman who led an army of widowed women, crushed several Dutch fleets, and captured several Dutch leaders was not mentioned..Did you deliberately not mention her or you don't know her?
To say that colonialism was violent and illtreated the native badly without mentioning the even more violent atrocities committed by neighbouring native states give a very biased view of history.
Why do you "forget" to say that spain england holand and france used Portuguese tecnology,maps,dicionaries,boats and knowlage to do their robberies? When Portugal start their empire in 1415, spain was still dominated by the mours and only sailed 150 years after the portuguese, not to mention the british who were in a civil war.
The thing about manhattan is that the Dutch could've never grew it to now size, they already had a hard time to keep it majority Dutch, there where also many problems like what would they do with the natives trade or combat
The Dutch built those mighty canals from imperialistic wealth, and now EU playing a higher moral ground with 'green economy' while imposing bans to southeast Asia region
Who would want Manhattan? The US revolution was just waiting to ger started and to be fair, a dutch colony there would have the same faith as the other English posessions as well
I think it’s funny. The narrator took the time to explain that the CEO operates more like a king when in post modern times that’s what companies do. They own land, houses,gold, private security, and make their own money in the farm of digital loans. so there’s really no difference.
No, Indonesian indentity only exist because of tje Dutch. Before, it's a mini Europe. Full of independent kingdoms that have different cultures and languages. Please don't characterised Indonesian as always existed. That's a lie.
But now we (Indonesia) have become a very great country, even greater than the Dutch country which previously colonized us. Education in our country is advanced and developing, our economy is strong, even our military is much stronger than the Netherlands which used to fool us, and in fact now we are much stronger than the Netherlands which is only a country the size of a city in our country.
12:30 This wasn't just killing off the population. Jan Pieterszoon Coen took the leader of the Bandanese to a VOC fort and hacked him to death with a katana in front of all the VOC merchants and staff. One write in a diary how gruesome it was, but at least they would have full control of the nutmeg trade.
Coen killed 14.000 of the 15.000 Bandanese and put the remaining 1.000 to work as slaves on the plantations.
The VOC was one of the most violent companies and had committed several genocides, before the Dutch government took over and kept the VOC methods.
why was the UK so generous in letting NL have all that control in the post-napoleon era? wasnt NL's fleet non existent and easy for the UK to sweep everything?
Many Dutch are still horified by this gruesome chapter of Dutch capitalism. Thankfully, we enjoy vastly improved relations between the Netherlands and Indonesia nowadays.
In fact Indonesia or nusantara was controlled for more than 300 years is history created by the colonialists, Nusantara was not controlled for more than 300 years by the Dutch or VOC , but it took the VOC more than 300 years to control the entire Nusantara, because the Nusantara still has some an independent region with a strong ruler and kingdom, the small example of Aceh was only controlled in the 19th century and Buton was never colonized. and the unitary state of the Republic of Indonesia was formed in 1945, which was previously called the Nusantara "Isn't history made by winners?"
Ancient Indonesians had all they needed to conquer the world but they simply didn't want to. The main difference back then, and still today, was ambition. There was no need to conquer to the world when you have everything at your doorstep for the Indonesians.
Dutch colonial legacy in indonesia, the many islands and vast seas the borders they claimed . If not Dutch, i dont think there is a country called Indonesia now
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Apakah orang Belanda sekarang tidak merasa bersalah ya terhadap bangsa Indonesia. Bahwa dahulunya nenek moyang Belanda pernah menjajah dan membunuh banyak sekali orang Indonesia dengan keji, saya sebagai orang Indonesia kalau melihat film dokumentasi sejarah kelam bangsa Indonesia selalu tidak kuat, banyak perasaan campur aduk, marah sudah jelas, tapi sekarang sudah damai dan Belanda juga Indonesia punya hubungan diplomasi kedua negara yang bagus. Jika orang Belanda cinta Indonesia datanglah kami sambut dengan baik.
In most of history it was Holland (consisting out of north and south Holland and Zeeland ) who conquered and made colonies. The other provenances had their own laws the provinces weren’t united as they are today. If one married in Friesland your marriage wasn’t valid in Holland. Lodewijk Napoleon United all together under law, after napoleon the Orange family returned and was made king which was a big mistake if you ask me.
The Dutch, in strugle with Spain, fight the Portugal, who was at the Iberian Union, ruled by the spanish Kings, the FILIPES, and take the Portugal places at the islands of spices, at the Indonesian archipelago. The fun question is why the Baasa language of Indonésia, has hundreds of words from the portuguese and from the dutch language, there is nothing ...
As such Dutch History would be forever doomed - overshadowed by colonialism, the English "defeating" the Spanish Armada, the American and French Revolutions. Nobody ever talks of the Dutch Republic being the first true capitalist democracy in history, the most powerful navy in the 17th century that sent Spain, England and France onto their knees, its military reforms that founded the basis of Line Infantry and Napoleonic Warfare, and its 80-year long war of independence that makes the American revolution look like child's play to the point that parts of the American Declaration of Independence is literally the Act of Abjuration (Dutch Declaration of Independence) copied and pasted.
Alas. Such a shame.
I cannot even watch it...they destroyed these people for profit instead of establishing proper trade relations. I've stopped in the middle, it gives me stomachaches. I keep thinking of the "glorious portraits" of the Dutch painters of the time, portraying the "good protestant" leaders.
“The Dutch Hydra of capitalism…the tendrils of Netherlands…”
I’m a long-time spectator of your channel, but I don’t think I’ve viewed a more biased video. This one targetting the Netherlands, obviously.
Please keep the objective trajectory which is befitting of any historian and of this channel, as I know it. Thanks for the video! It shed light on a little-known subject for Westerners.
The Dutch was not colonized the whole area of Indonesia for 300+ years, there are many resistance that make the Dutch not entirely conquer all area the whole time. That "300 years" was a stupid propaganda
Since When Phillipine become Malays??? Do you have reference for this detail ??? Furthermore, Malay is a ethnic in Indonesia now. In Java Island majority is Javanese and other ethnic people. Only Sumatra island have Malay ethnic base kingdom. What reference you get from saying so many wrong histroy information???
Dutch didn't colonize Indonesia as long as 350 years because Indonesia was established since 1945.
Easy for Dutch or VOC colonized Nusantara in that time because Nusantara still sparated by a lot of kingdoms
You seem to be confused about what capitalism means. You keep referring to Dutch military monopolies as capitalism. A better phrase would be imperial mercantilism. Capitalism simply means freedom to buy, sell, own and work as you please without state interference. That hardly applies here.
The Netherlands is not called "Holland", Holland is the name of 2 provinces within the country, South Holland and North Holland
Calling the Netherlands Holland is like calling the US "Maryland" or the UK "Midlands", that's not the name of the country, but a state/province
Is it normal for ships bows to be leaning so low into the water was that the way the sailed in the old days, I'm very ignorant to the ways of the seas and vast oceans ️
Corporations are not private, they are you guessed it kind of like states. Just as in a society subject to the authority (force) of the state there is mainly private property, which is subject to the abuses of the state, so in a corporation the capital is private, but the corporation is not.
By the way, the so-called "public property" is nonsense, it is a dissolution of property. Public property is nobody's property, it is a temporary usufruct of bureaucrats.
Returning to corporations, control of capital no longer belongs to the individual. That means private: of the individual. When you vote on how capital is used it is politics, not private initiative.
It is ok to talk about the "capitalist hydra" as long as we are careful to dissociate capitalism (corporations and business done with the state) from the free market and the private initiative of entrepreneurs. We need to understand capitalism as another face of statism and politics.
Holland is the province.
The Republic of the United seven provinces/Netherlands (Shortened to: The Republic) is the colonizing historical state before up until the point it is conquered by the French.
After the French lose in the Napoleonic wars, the Kingdom of the Netherlands is established.
For a history channel you're doing a poor job at the historic names.
Hopefully someone can explain my curiousity :
I observe many history of colonialism and imperialism. Mostly number of population of the conquered area is much larger when compared than the conquerors. But the larger numbers was nothing. Mostly conquerors were succeed.
Why could it be happened? Is it because of the conqueror's technology, local's mentality and bravery, or matter of lobbying skill?
The Dutch Empire was not like the English and French either. "Empire is too expensive". The Dutch build far more ships but had far less people and far less poor people. They didn't have the man power to rule many foreign peoples even if they had desired to, which they didn't.
Good overview. Ppl always think colonialism and imperialism was all the same. But thats neither true nor a helpful take. Dutch colonialism in Indonesia and Suriname for example were easily some of the darkest episodes in history.
And Indonesia, like many other artificially created colonial countries then carried on this legacy and did their own fair share of horrors such as to the East Timor and West Papua. Very unfortunate.
PLEASE! Do a video on The Divine Right of Kings. As well as the use of religion in global conquest. Highlight the “Inter caetera” The Papal Bull of 1493 (The Doctrine of Discovery) “The Romanus pontifex”,The Papal Bull of 1455 “Dum Diversas” The Papal Bull of 1452 The Fallout is still killing centuries later.
As a Nederlands person, I think it is a pitty that you also call our name Holland and Dutch, these are historically incorrect names. We are not Dutch and Holland is one of the two parts of the Netherlands (Noord- en Zuid Holland). Dutch = Deutsch and has nothing to do with the Netherlands.
Guys, the location of Amsterdam of the opening map is so incredibly wrong ... :\
You literally only place one marker in the subject country, and it's wrong.
And as other commenters have indicated, there's a lot more wrong with that map.
Honestly, where does the word Malay Worlds come from? Malay identity is synonymous with Islam, while Indonesian origins are Hindu Buddhism, and finally the current one is Islam, so who claims who?
We need to talk about the map shown at 0:16... what happened here? whyyyyyyy
The underlying base/river map is accurate too, so if you recognize geography you can see where some borders are supposed to be.
5:37 was correct Siak was so powerful and ruled Sumatra Island with rich resource of oil until becoming Indonesia. The Sultan of Siak was the one who represent Sumatera that attended at front row at the inauguration queen Wilhemina. Somehow at 10:26 untill the end of the video you failed to mention the importance of Siak at all. Probably in a separate video you should mention how the communist party under the late Soekarno leadership era killed and forced kingdoms all over the Island to be part of Indonesia.
Considering the scale of history it remains to be seen, if the nation of Indonesia can endure in its current form. Let's not kid ourselves, it acts in many ways not unlike the old colonial overlord, especially on its outer perimeters, such as West Papua. But also the (let's call them) core islands are not immune. The diversity that makes the country strong is in danger, with certain extreme groups trying to press their faith and their specific version of their faith unto all others. That's a recipe for disaster.
Although, ultimately it might not be such a terrible thing, for the country to break apart. You first need to be or learn to be good neighbours, before you can live in the same house.
0:17 Sorry mate, but i cant unsee the borders of europe, especially the Balkans. Bucharest in Bulgaria, Belgrade in Croatia. Skoplje in Serbia. Put at least the capital in the correct nation, small issue, but you cant really unsee it.
The more you look, the worse it gets, Budapest in Slovakia..., HOW?! HOW DID YOU PUT VIENNA IN CZECHIA?!
nusantara adalah dongeng sebelum tidur... yang benar ada nusa kambangan .
jempol ke belanda. memulai kolonialnya dari ujung kawasan melayu, pulau rempah yang berharga...
spices had freely flowed over the silk road? Are you out of your mind? The Indonesian people had been exploited by the sultans for centuries. And after the Dutch were driven out after WW-II they swooped in again.
Interesting how virtually every single one of these tactics is still employed today by the exact same people (CEOs, C-suites, capitalists). Also interesting that virtually everything the VOC did, tactically, is essentially normative CIA policy. Weird, almost mirrored relationship between the two. It's almost like America exists to serve "a hydra" of capitalism.
'' A common perception of the age of colonization is that the Europeans conquered the world by virtue of their vastly superior guns, cannons and naval technology. However, military and naval technology was only a small part of the story.'' Only a small part? That's the whole story. First, colonialists came there from other part of world thanks to their superior military and naval tech. Locals made deals with colonialists because they had their superior tech. They owned main trade hubs with their power. they crushed the rebels with superior guns and ships. They maintained the order in colonies with their superior guns and ships.
Not sure if the constant calling of this kind of behavior as Capitalism is tongue in cheek or not. I mean not every time an economic theory exercises investment do you then have Capitalism. Unless you guys mean to say Capitalism as defined by Marx then that's amorphous as one would need it to be. If you mean Adam Smith's theory of free markets then this is very much not in line with that.
The key marker is that an economic structure that is based on Smith's observation must include creating consumers. So genocide would be counter productive.
althought i soo hate the europe colonizer. but it still amaze me, how these very small countries can conquer other larger nation, that are so far away from their origin country.
I am beyond furius how little attention was given on the many massacres and genocides that happened to the people. It is mentioned so vaguely that it doesn’t show the extent the Dutch went to subdue the region. Many of the generals who committed them are still honored in The Netherlands precisely because we don’t hold them accountable. As someone living in NL, I can say that the Dutch are proud of the VoC and have no shame whatsoever!!
There is no such thing as "MALAY WORLD". The area known as Nusantara Archipelago. Malay is just an ethnic, among 1400+ ethnic exist in indonesia. They are not even in the big 5 of biggest ethnic in indonesia, with population only 5,3 million. Added with the rest of malay population in nusantara archipelago, their population are not even reaching 20 million.
Calling the archipelago as malay world, is the same as calling the island of great britain and ireland as irish world, or isle of man's world, or calling the entire europe as the vatican world.
10:30 sulu did not hold that much land on sabah, thats bullshit. they were pirates by sea and did not enter the interior of sabah, their influence only reached the coast. who the fuck made that map?
No population census has been conducted in Indonesia since its liberation from Dutch colonialism. Although Indonesia is a Muslim country, the fifth column and the ruling lobby in Indonesia are Christian and loyal to the West (most of the ruling lobbies in Islamic countries are Christian), and Indonesia is the third most populous and more populated than United States of america, ...the numbers given are just baseless estimation... If you want to know the real number of Muslims in any country you should do
the real number of Muslims in an islamic country = number of muslims according to the government that rule that islamic country + 10%-20% of that number
the real number of Muslims in an non muslim country = number of muslims according to the government that rule that non muslim country × 2
the real number of Muslims in a Christian or western country = number of muslims according to the government that rule that Christian or western country ×3-9
for example if the government of a christian or western country said we have 100,000 muslims in our territory ..that mean the real number of muslims in their territory is 300,000 or maybe 900,000
When Dutch history is told by Anglophones my favourite part is always the butchering of the names :D How about telling the history of the Dutch war of independece from Spain, Kings and Generals? There's virtually nothing about that on your channel or any non-Dutch Youtube channel, and think of all the names that can be butchered...
The last resistance to colonial powers was a Hindu Kingdom of Bali, the Dutch never took over Bali and Bali technically should not be part of Indonesia.
11:40 In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some capitalistic entity or law? Is it like the hand of Voc hovering above? At least it is true that indonesians have no control, even over their own will.
To be fair this kind of videos going in so far etc, not sure if I should be proud or not... Like yeah sadly it was the time period and yeah quit a archievment, but the way we got it....
We didn't, they self-colonised for us... We took over from the Portuguese, kicked out the English pirates, and the Indonesians them selves colonised island after island for us..
Dutch commercial colonisation, at a time when voyages lasted months without radio or much other communications???
This piece is typical British style propaganda full of half-truths and mis-presentations. Just because the British came off second best.. a disgrace.
the question is, would there have been piece without the Dutch scheming? The wars and deaths are easily blamed on the Dutch. However, these were warlike tribes that fought all the time. Not sure if there would have been a paradise without the Dutch tbh.
Dutch deforestation in Sumatra. The Dutch started deforestation in the East Coast of Sumatra. At least 80% of the area in the lowland of North Sumatra had been deforested by 1940.
Karl Pelzer’s study using data of 1940 showed that in the two largest tobacco production area (Deli and Serdang afdeeling), 61% of the land was used for tobacco production, 31% not being used, and only 8% under forest. So more than 90% of the area had already been cleared.
… on the distant horizon, encompassed by the virgin forest, half enveloped still in the milk-white morning mists, was land that would one day become the new estate.
For centuries on end the secret struggle for life had gone on in the perennial dusk. Suddenly men had come, cutting, uprooting, destroying the majestic tree trunks, and the myriad suckers of the creepers. The blows of axes had resounded through the forest, and a thundering roar, magnified a thousand fold, had echoed through the dim depths like the sound of a dire disaster as these old giants of the forest fell dying. Still, under these colossal trunks with foliage lying criss-cross all over the ground, the black, soft, moist humus had continued to live. …
Then in one morning at one stroke fire had put an end to all that remained. It had flared up, crackling, hissing, sizzling among the mighty tree trunks. … There had been a raging era of fire, a furious flood of flames bellowing as it reached up heavenward.
Before they had realised what was happening, plants and animals had been annihilated.
Madelon Lulofs-Szekely, Coolies (1933)
Felled trees for tobacco plantation in Deli in 1890s.
When we talk about deforestation, Indonesia always came up as the main culprit. Less talked about is Dutch root of deforestation in Indonesia. As described above by Madelon Lulofs-Szekely, many parts of Sumatra’s East coast were still covered by jungles in the 19th Century.
The Dutch discovered the tobacco industry in Deli in the 1860s and created a an industrial-scale plantation system. The local sultans collaborated and gave concessions of 1000–2000 hectares of land to each company in a 75-year lease.
The Dutch colonial planters assumed that tobacco could only grow well in the soil that had just been cleared from the virgin jungle. Thus the industry drove large-scale virgin forests clearing to produce tobacco leaves exported to Europe and America. The Dutch then realised they cannot clear the land unlimitedly. In 1880, the fallow system was introduced. The land is cultivated once for tobacco and left fallow for 8 years. Thus, each year only a tenth of the area was used for tobacco production.
Cleared jungles
The 1890 Koloniaal Verslag (colonial report) reported that the area of the East coast of Sumatra (Deli, Padang Bedagai, Serdang, Landkat, Batu Bara, Labuhan Batu & Asahan afdeeling) had established a total of 232 estates/companies with a total of 426,000 hectares of land concession.
The east coast of Sumatra was then known as Cultuurgebied, the plantation belt. The areas had been carved up with concessions for tobacco and rubber, as shown in this map from 1920.
The plantation belt of the East Coast of Sumatra in 1920. The yellow areas are for tobacco and green areas are for rubber.
A closer look on the map for the afdeeling of Serdang, about 85% of the area had already been given to various companies. The land was divided into parcels, each with a company’s name.
A map of the Serdang division. All lands were parcelled and allocated to companies.
It is challenging to estimate the amount of deforested areas, but most lands on the East coast of Sumatra had already been cut up as concessions to European companies since 1870s.
Karl Pelzer’s study using data of 1940 showed that in the two largest tobacco production area (Deli and Serdang afdeeling), 61% of the land was used for tobacco production, 31% not being used, and only 8% under forest. So more than 90% of the area had already been cleared.
All products from the land were exported. Feldwick reported the following principal articles exported from the east coast of Sumatra in 1915:
Kerosene, 140,280,021 litres; benzine and gasolene, 84,600,762 litres; liquid fuel, 6,296,20 litres; forest products, 6,006,621 kg; , rubber: Hevea, 9,085,943 kg; Ficus plantation, 441,222 kg; Ficus jungle, 32,213 kg; other sorts, 1,693 kg; Copra, 5,105,240 kg; gambier, 2, 124,979; gutta-percha, 583,421 kg; charcoal, 916,704 kg; Coffee: Liberia, 2,174,106 kg; Robusta, 1,188,552 kg ; Java, 11,047 kg; other sorts, 97,264 kg; black pepper, 1,487,555 kg; Penang nuts, 4,006,294 kg; rattan, 4,517,462 kg: sago flour, 176,586 kg; Deli tobacco leaf, 20,821,722 kg; tea leaves, 638, 118 kg ; trassi, 8,717,755 kg; salt or dried fish, 26,092,005 kg; fresh fruit, 47,092 kg.
Plantation was a big investment. As reported further by Feldwick:
At the end of 1915, the total amount was estimated at over f 200,000,000. Of this sum, tobacco claimed about 46,000,000, of which f 40,000,000 represented Dutch money, and f 4,665,000 British. Coffee and rubber absorbed about f 124,000, 000, and of this Dutch investments aggregated over f 62,000,000 and British f 53,645,932. The money in tea stood at f 7,170,000, nearly f 6,000,000 of which British capital. Coconuts, coffee, gambier, and oil palms have also attracted foreign capital.
The Americans were in as well with the Hollandsch Amerikaansche Plantage Maatschappij (later became the United States Rubber Plantation Inc.) in Kisaran. The Belgians had Société Financière des Caoutchoucs (Socfin) with oil palm plantations in Asahan.
The following graph illustrated the area harvested for the main commodities in the east coast.
Tobacco was the main product, reaching a peak in 1910, and soon rubber took over.
Overall, I estimated by 1940, over 1 million hectares of the land in the east coast of Sumatra had been deforested by colonial planters. And all of the monies go to foreign companies.
Thee Kian Wee summarised it as
In 1938 this region, with an area of only 1.7 percent of the whole territory of the country and a population of only 2.5 percent of its total population, accounted for not less than 21 percent of the country‘s total exports.
Finally on the extinction of animals, Albert Frys-Wyssling, the father of molecular biologist who worked for AVROS in Medan in early 1930s wrote:
the original large animal fauna of the Sumatran lowland forests with elephants, rhinos, tapir and orangutans had long been expelled from the cultivated land of the east coast, but the small remnant of the jungle had given the tigers and their feeding base of wild boars a shelter in the middle of the plantation area.
Ladislao Szekely in Tropical Fever wrote:
Dark and precipitous, the fringe of the forest reared skyward. Tomorrow those trees, too, would lie felled on the ground. With no mercy, no compassion, the human will here squander its energy. A few years hence bungalows would stand here, tennis courts and streets would be built, automobiles would be tearing along and factory chimneys smoking.
Only yesterday the bloodthirsty tiger had here mangled his booty; frightened the herd of deer had fled; quietly and majestically the rulers of the desert, the elephants, had paced through their realm.
However, we need to remember that forests are not important, just money is important! Afterall, we need to buy a car every year and new computers, playstations, phones and more and more and more of NADA!
yes... in capitalism... Monopoly is the way to get to the top... :) it is still true today.... oh idk about the genocides tho, but yeah it could happen if you tickle those rich people hard enough and they see you as an eyesore... not genocide but murder here and there... maybe?
Make a video ABOUT how DUTCH people still have the SAMA SAMA mentality and behaviour as BACK THEN.
And they are still very motivated 2 do
Dutch people R only victums ALWAYS
All Bcoz Islam ... they Blocked the Silk Route and starting the Colonial Era, Then they destroyed the one kingdom of Nusantara en replace it with small islam kingdom who never unite as one like Majapahit.
Netherlands conquering Indonesia through political and economic maneuvers:
Certain current 20 and 21st century countries that I won't mention: Cof cof
And so we close the Indonesia saga, what will be next, Vietnam?, Philippines?, taking advantage of the theme, it would be cool to make a video about the Berlin conference and the sharing of Africa.
Indonesians must thank them Dutches despite the atrocities. Without them, Indonesia wouldnt exists, or it would not be as big as today, as today's indonesia's teritory based on the Netherland's occupation lands.
Seeing their history, indonesia tribes chieftains love wars too themselves, it is impossible to unite the lands under one seas. Their common struggle against the dutch brought them together.
Also, without Netherland, Indonesia would be still poor and uncivilised af today, like most of african countries today.
Hard facts but facts nonetheless.
The arch of history inevitably bends towards justice. Just like china eventually surpassed its European colonizers in gdp, so too will Indonesia soon surpass the Dutch. By sheer population size, Indonesia already wins; coupled with 6-7% gdp growth per year, it’s only a matter of time.
Dont talk about past this time we all in freedom any problem with that .....are u okay do u realize any independance day ahs been rule all this world why stil ur mind to past
We Indonesians are Muslims and are proud of that. We do not like the Dutch and Europeans They tried to promote their pagan, polytheistic religion, but we did not accept that
Heran sama org2 barat yg berfikir Indonesia di jajah arab makanya mayoritas muslim padahal yg jajah org eropa, sekarang jg begitu, mereka yg adu domba tapi yg disalahin negara mayoritas muslim
As a Dutch historian, I can confirm this documentary is very accurate. It's just that more nostalgic and nationalist Dutch people still refuse to acknowledge just how much violence and exploitation was involved, and that only a small group of rich men in Holland really benefited from the VOC colonisation of "Insulinde". In recent decades, the term "Golden Age" has been rightfully criticised and gradually became obsolete, although some will still argue Coen did not commit genocide, and that we should continue to have streets and other things named after him and other VOC leaders, who in the 21st century would have been condemned for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
If we stop to think, Portugal and Spain violated the Treaty of Tordesillas because Portugal conquered Malacca, which in line with the treaty belonged to the Spanish Crown, and Spain conquered the Philippines, which The Treaty Was Part of the Dominions of Portugal.
Ironically, students in the Netherlands are taught that the brutal colonialism in Indonesia, which resulted in the deaths of thousands (perhaps millions) of people, was not colonialism but merely business.
Sorry but this narrator has no clue what he is saying or is biased. He doesn’t express the fact that most of the world tribes did not have a burning desire to steal from other tribes as did the Europeans. What people with brain should understand is these little European ships that first explored the world and had contact with local people were trusted by the natives. That’s obvious. These natives had no idea of the evil sinister plans these European “explorers” had in mind. The colonialists were nothing but scoundrels and opportunists. I would literally be dying of shame if I was European and my ancestors had any hand in it
As a nation that has colonized and destroyed Indonesia, I think the Dutch must be responsible for everything they have done to Indonesia. Maybe an apology has been given, but furthermore the Netherlands must provide something for Indonesia to develop.
The Spanish was the first and only moral Empire in history, while other nations used genocide and widespread slavery and opression, the Spanish focused on evangelize, building schools, hospitals, churches, universities, cathedrals, and mixing with the locals.
Now Europe is considered to be the seat of progressive society, but back in the colonial days, they were vicious as you-know-what.
Too bad humanity seems unable to learn the lesson that brutality, slaughter, and tyranny do not lead to a successful society.
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